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Nazz
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WHY WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR 14 YEAR ILR

Post by Nazz » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:28 pm

DEAR ALL

AFTER SEARCHING THIS FORUM AND OTHER ONES REGARDING ILR ON THE BAISES OF 14 YEARS LRC, I HAVE OBSERVED THE FOLLOWING:

SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL WAITING( 2 T0 3 YEARS PLUS)

SOME PEOPLE GOT IT IN 10 MONTHS

SOME PEOPLE GOT IN ONE YEAR.

I MYSELF ON THE OTHER HAND, AM STILL WAITING AFTER 10 MONTHS.( ON 17/11/O5 I WILL BE HERE FOR 15 YEARS)

NOW THE BIG QUESTION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL WAITING IS, WHERE WE ARE GOING WRONG?

WHY IS THAT SOME PEOPLE GET IN SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AND OTHERS ARE STLL WAITING?

i DO UNDERSTAND THAT EACH CASE IS DEALT WITH ON INDIVIDUAL BAISES, BUT STIL DOES'NT MAKE SENSE.

I AM TRYING TO FIND A LOGICAL ANSWER OR SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

PROBABLE SOLUTIONS:

1. FIND A LEGAL REPRESENTATION, BUT WOULD THIS HELP TO MINIMISE THE WAITING PERIOD.

2.LET YOUR LOCAL MP GET INVOLVED WITH CASE , A REGULAR FOLLOW UP MIGHT HELP.

I MYSELF DO HAVE A LAWYER, BUT I AM SERIOUSLY THINKING OF INVOLVING MY LOCAL MP.

I WOULD REALLY APRECIATE IF ANYONE CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS MATTER, OR GIVE US GUIDANCE ON WHY WE ARE STILL WAITING.

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Post by Chess » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:29 pm

Nazz

Please refrain from posying in UPPER CASE - it is not good at all and your posts may be deleted
Where there is a will there is a way.

boss39
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14 years residency

Post by boss39 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:47 pm

Hello Nazz

I am in the the same situation as you.

I have been waiting for the last 16 months. Whenever I contacted the HO, they always have the same answer, your application is under further consideration. I

In my case, I have been married for the last 4 years and my wife has british nationality, I though that will help my case but I am still waiting.

I send them a comprehensive pills of documents for evidence of the last 15 years continous residency.

I supposed it is a matter of waiting.

I think involving your MP will probably help as I saw somewhere on this forum that someone has invloved his MP and he got his ILR within 10 months.

I am thinking of withdrawing my application and go back home and apply for a spouse visa. That is risky as well.

I am very confused and not sure what to do.

Thanks

Nazz
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dear Boss

Post by Nazz » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:54 pm

Why dont you involve your local MP, and do you have any leagal representation?

There must be something me and you are doing wrong.

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14 years long residency

Post by boss39 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:59 pm

Hello

I am completed the application by myself. I don't have any legal representative as the application was straight forward.

I send them the proof of residency for the last 15 years, that's all is required and an explanation of why I overstayed.

I received a letter from them and they said that my application is valid but it is under further consideration.

Yes I am thinking that perhaps next week I will try to see my MP and see if they can help.

Are you working at the moment?

Nazz
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Hi Boss

Post by Nazz » Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:46 pm

No I am not working now i am doing my PhD in Engineering. I also think that you should seek legal help as well.

Approaching local MP is constructive, thats what i will do.

keep me pasted Boss and goog luck, i hjope we'll get it soon.

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Post by eso » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:23 am

well as i told you on my deleted post (i wonder why) all you will get is stuff like "nettiquette" and answers like "it is very bad to write in upper cases " how helpful is that ????,anyway this post would probably going to be deleted because we do not agree with moderators
PM me and will talk ,you are right there is serious need to address the problem of the 14 years concession and what to do about it since no one seems remotely interested in our cases ,
first it is not an exception ,it is part of immigration rules
unlike what some people say on this forum .you will have more chances getting it then they make it to be
get in touch privately

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Post by Chess » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:46 am

eso wrote:well as i told you on my deleted post (i wonder why) all you will get is stuff like "nettiquette" and answers like "it is very bad to write in upper cases " how helpful is that ????,anyway this post would probably going to be deleted because we do not agree with moderators
PM me and will talk ,you are right there is serious need to address the problem of the 14 years concession and what to do about it since no one seems remotely interested in our cases ,
first it is not an exception ,it is part of immigration rules
unlike what some people say on this forum .you will have more chances getting it then they make it to be
get in touch privately
moderators are here to help as much as they can - and there is extensive evidence of thousands of LEGAL migrants who have been helped by this forum..

please keep us informed of your progress so that others can benefit.. (I assume you have 1.5 years left before you qualify for the 14 year rule). I hope it is not abolished as part of the immigration system revamp :roll:

Good Luck
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Post by eso » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:38 pm

thank you for you best wishes
but according to you few days ago ,you seemed to be really amazed if the law changed ,you have now downgraded to simple hopes ,could you explain you sudden drop of faith then

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Post by eso » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:40 pm

"LEGAL" migrants
is there a meaning in netiquette terms for writing legal in upper case

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Post by Marie B » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:54 am

I'm not sure how it works but in order to seek representation / advice from an MP you have to of course be a constituent. If you are not on the electoral register can you ask for an appointment with your local MP? This would only be a problem if you are currently here illegally, if your application is being processed and you have a legal status in this country then i'm sure you do have an MP. Just something to consider.

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Post by John » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:17 am

Marie B wrote:If you are not on the electoral register can you ask for an appointment with your local MP? This would only be a problem if you are currently here illegally
Marie, in practice MPs will try to help anyone living in their area, irrespective of whether they are on the electoral register or not. Don't overlook the fact that there are many legal immigrants in the UK who are not on the electoral register, and have no right to be on it. Only British, Commonwealth and EU citizens can be on the electoral register ... no one else can be ... even if they are legally in the UK.

Long residence is covered by the Immigration Rules, in particular :-
Long residence

Long residence in the United Kingdom

276A.
For the purposes of paragraphs 276B to 276D:

(a) "continuous residence" means residence in the United Kingdom for an unbroken period, and for these purposes a period shall not be considered to have been broken where an applicant is absent from the United Kingdom for a period of 6 months or less at any one time, provided that the applicant in question has existing limited leave to enter or remain upon their departure and return, but shall be considered to have been broken if the applicant:

(i) has been removed under Schedule 2 of the 1971 Act, section 10 of the 1999 Act, has been deported or has left the United Kingdom having been refused leave to enter or remain here; or

(ii) has left the United Kingdom and, on doing so, evidenced a clear intention not to return; or

(iii) left the United Kingdom in circumstances in which he could have had no reasonable expectation at the time of leaving that he would lawfully be able to return; or

(iv) has been convicted of an offence and was sentenced to a period of imprisonment or was directed to be detained in an institution other than a prison (including, in particular, a hospital or an institution for young offenders), provided that the sentence in question was not a suspended sentence; or

(v) has spent a total of more than 18 months absent from the United Kingdom during the period in question.

(b) "lawful residence" means residence which is continuous residence pursuant to:

(i) existing leave to enter or remain; or

(ii) temporary admission within section 11 of the 1971 Act where leave to enter or remain is subsequently granted; or

(iii) an exemption from immigration control, including where an exemption ceases to apply if it is immediately followed by a grant of leave to enter or remain.

Requirements for indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom

276B.
The requirements to be met by an applicant for indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom are that:

(i) (a) he has had at least 10 years continuous lawful residence in the United Kingdom; or

(b) he has had at least 14 years continuous residence in the United Kingdom, excluding any period spent in the United Kingdom following service of notice of liability to removal or notice of a decision to remove by way of directions under paragraphs 8 to 10A, or 12 to 14, of Schedule 2 to the Immigration Act 1971 or section 10 of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 Act, or of a notice of intention to deport him from the United Kingdom; and

(ii) having regard to the public interest there are no reasons why it would be undesirable for him to be given indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence, taking into account his:

(a) age; and

(b) strength of connections in the United Kingdom; and

(c) personal history, including character, conduct, associations and employment record; and

(d) domestic circumstances; and

(e) previous criminal record and the nature of any offence of which the person has been convicted; and

(f) compassionate circumstances; and

(g) any representations received on the person's behalf.

Indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom

276C.
Indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom may be granted provided that the Secretary of State is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 276B is met.

Refusal of indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom

276D.
Indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom is to be refused if the Secretary of State is not satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 276B is met.
It is great that Long Residence is part of the Immigration Rules, but anyone claiming to use those provisions should not overlook paragraph 276B(ii), which effectively gives a lot of discretion to IND, or at least requires them to investigate each application very carefully ... a long process.
John

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Post by Chess » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:11 am

eso wrote:"LEGAL" migrants
is there a meaning in netiquette terms for writing legal in upper case
Eso,

Let us put sentiments aside. we are here to help as many people as we can.

There is stron evidence of many people having benefited on this forum - you just cant take that away.

I know you are going through a difficult time - but we are here to help.

If you think I have *treated* you unfairly please send a PM to admin or other moderators.

Once again - Good Luck
Where there is a will there is a way.

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Post by ppron747 » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:36 am

John wrote:....It is great that Long Residence is part of the Immigration Rules, but anyone claiming to use those provisions should not overlook paragraph 276B(ii), which effectively gives a lot of discretion to IND, or at least requires them to investigate each application very carefully ... a long process.
I agree - it removes a lot of the uncertainty in people's lives. I wonder how many applications HO have received. It seems to me that, if a lot of people have now put their heads above the parapet as a result, the rule change has the potential to slow an already lengthy process down to a crawl - and that, if everyone chases the progress of their applications, that could slow things down even more, with staff spending their time dealing with replying to reminders, rather than processing the applications....
|| paul R.I.P, January, 2007
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Post by Chess » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:53 am

eso wrote:"LEGAL" migrants
is there a meaning in netiquette terms for writing legal in upper case
Eso,

I send my sincere apologies.

This borad has helped many people gain legal entry to the various countries. For the Uk, this board has also helped previously *overstaying or illegal immigrants* including failed assylum seekers to legalise their stay.

The postings on this forum are testament to this. I personally feel very priviledged to have voluntarily helped so many people.
Where there is a will there is a way.

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