ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

spouse visa refusal

Questions and discussions about claiming benefits while living and working in the UK

Moderators: Casa, Amber, archigabe, batleykhan, ca.funke, ChetanOjha, EUsmileWEallsmile, JAJ, John, Obie, push, geriatrix, vinny, CR001, zimba, meself2

Locked
onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

spouse visa refusal

Post by onjfan2006 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:32 pm

Hi everyone...hope everyone is well, i am a newbie here and have been surfing through all this website...I enetered into a civil partnership with my same sex partner in Colombia earlier this year...in fact we married twice, first we married in Popayan through a public notary ...we were her first civil partenership case.. we had the reception , the family and friends at a beautiful hotel , all the family and guests were there..i am a British citizen , but was born in Colombia myself...but been here in UK since an early age..My partner is Colombian ...we had an appointment with the British consulate in Cali Colombia on another matter and during our conversation with her , our wedding came up, after telling her the details she told us that our marriage would not be recognised in the uk ,unless we were to enter into a civil ceremony at the British Embassy in Bogota ...This is what we then had to do , i was due to fly home in the next few days but had to postpone my flight for another week or so, in order for us to get married there..
This is my situation ...i am currently in receipt of benefits, i receive Incapacity benefit , income support and Disability living allowance .....My partners visa was refused on the grounds that 2 your sponsor is currently in receipt of substantial public funds, which he is entitled to , no evidence has been provided of any other income your sponsor recieves or any evidence that your sponsor is able to work , as no evidence has been provided of any previous employment , i am not satisfied that his income is likely to increase in the short term , ..."
Since this refusal , i have had substantial increases in my benefit.., totalling £280 per week ....would this not be enough for me to maintain my partner till he finds work ?...we are finding this situation very stressful and he has been under medical supervision by his gp for stress related issues caused by all this ...we have been together for 15 months and we spent 3 wonderful months together in Colombia when we got married....?...we are waiting for appeal date ...i have a solicitor , and have spoke to my local councilor who is an immigration expert , he will be asking any necessary questions on our behalf ....please can anyone help us advise us ...we are so grateful for any advise you could give us ....thank you

Wanderer
Diamond Member
Posts: 10511
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:46 pm
Ireland

Post by Wanderer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:57 pm

Benefits are geared to support the receiver and them only, anything greater would be unfair.
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

Post by onjfan2006 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:01 pm

these benefits are In my name Only,my partner is living in Colombia , we are awaiting the appeal date ..but i feel that my income is more than enough to suppport us both when he does arrive here , that is , until he finds work ..

Wanderer
Diamond Member
Posts: 10511
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:46 pm
Ireland

Post by Wanderer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:17 pm

onjfan2006 wrote:these benefits are In my name Only,my partner is living in Colombia , we are awaiting the appeal date ..but i feel that my income is more than enough to suppport us both when he does arrive here , that is , until he finds work ..
Doesn't matter, the Gov. sets benefit level to suit the person in need and family, not anyone else the person might want to invite into the household from a land afar.

Sorry but that's the way it is.
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

mochyn
Diamond Member
Posts: 1038
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:02 pm

Post by mochyn » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:34 pm

Together for 15 months?

UKBA is looking for proof of a 2 year relationship before issuing a visa

onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

Post by onjfan2006 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:19 pm

there is no mention in the refusal letter that we have to have been together for 15 months, none at all ,

onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

Post by onjfan2006 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:37 pm

apologies , what i meant to say is : there is no mention in the refusal letter that we both have to have been in a relationship for 2 years at least....this is only for un anmarried partner aor same sex partner....we are both legally married to each other , therefore we dont fall under that ruling

Wanderer
Diamond Member
Posts: 10511
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:46 pm
Ireland

Post by Wanderer » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:25 am

onjfan2006 wrote:apologies , what i meant to say is : there is no mention in the refusal letter that we both have to have been in a relationship for 2 years at least....this is only for un anmarried partner aor same gender partner....we are both legally married to each other , therefore we dont fall under that ruling
That's right, but u still need to prove financial support, and as before, benefits are geared for the claimant, not the claimant and one foreign other, it's not me saying this, it's the UKBA...

It's not me saying no chance, I know it's been done but the odds are stacked against, especially as now we are in penny-pinching mode as a country thanks to this merciless coalition of disparates...
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

vinny
Moderator
Posts: 33283
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Post by vinny » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:14 am

This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

Post by onjfan2006 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:37 am

* Bump* any other advice , anyone?....would an offer of work for my partner help us in any way . how should we go about this ?, why would anyone want to employ someone who is at the time living in a foreign country ?...any help would be much appreciated ... thank you

John
Moderator
Posts: 12320
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:54 pm
Location: Birmingham, England
United Kingdom

Post by John » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:34 pm

i have had substantial increases in my benefit.., totalling £280 per week
Why is that? What has happened to cause that increase? For example are you now classed as severely disabled?
John

onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

Post by onjfan2006 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:29 pm

yes, that is the reason for the increase in my benefit...i am classed as severely disabled , i was assaulted by some thugs at my front door some time ago and was attacked using knives and bottles ...they tried cutting my fingers off...this on top of sexual physical abuse i received as a child has caused me many problems as an adult, including agorophobia and panic attacks...this increase has come about as a result of my psychologist filling in my DLA renewal form this year . i haven't mentioned any of this on my sponsors letetr , and i am worried that it may stop me from sponsoring my partner if i were to mention all this at the appeal ...any advice ?...

John
Moderator
Posts: 12320
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:54 pm
Location: Birmingham, England
United Kingdom

Post by John » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:41 pm

I cannot remember the name of the case but the fact that you are getting enhanced benefits because of the seriousness of your disabilities is because you need that extra money. Therefore it does not assist in your financial situation as regards your Civil Partner getting a Civil Partner visa.

Don't overlook here that the rejection was not because you are claiming benefits. It is because the quantum of your income is insufficient to show that your partner will not need to claim certain Public Funds.

Is your partner qualified in any way? What sort of work will they hope to get after they arrive in the UK on their Civil Partner visa?

Do you and your partner have any savings? If yes, roughly how much?
John

onjfan2006
Newly Registered
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:28 am

Post by onjfan2006 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:03 am

hi, my partner has studied business administration ,ihave around £2000 in savings

alikhan28
BANNED
Posts: 298
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:05 pm

Re: spouse visa refusal

Post by alikhan28 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:27 pm

onjfan2006 wrote:Hi everyone...hope everyone is well, i am a newbie here and have been surfing through all this website...I enetered into a civil partnership with my same gender partner in Colombia earlier this year...in fact we married twice, first we married in Popayan through a public notary ...we were her first civil partenership case.. we had the reception , the family and friends at a beautiful hotel , all the family and guests were there..i am a British citizen , but was born in Colombia myself...but been here in UK since an early age..My partner is Colombian ...we had an appointment with the British consulate in Cali Colombia on another matter and during our conversation with her , our wedding came up, after telling her the details she told us that our marriage would not be recognised in the uk ,unless we were to enter into a civil ceremony at the British Embassy in Bogota ...This is what we then had to do , i was due to fly home in the next few days but had to postpone my flight for another week or so, in order for us to get married there..
This is my situation ...i am currently in receipt of benefits, i receive Incapacity benefit , income support and Disability living allowance .....My partners visa was refused on the grounds that 2 your sponsor is currently in receipt of substantial public funds, which he is entitled to , no evidence has been provided of any other income your sponsor recieves or any evidence that your sponsor is able to work , as no evidence has been provided of any previous employment , i am not satisfied that his income is likely to increase in the short term , ..."
Since this refusal , i have had substantial increases in my benefit.., totalling £280 per week ....would this not be enough for me to maintain my partner till he finds work ?...we are finding this situation very stressful and he has been under medical supervision by his gp for stress related issues caused by all this ...we have been together for 15 months and we spent 3 wonderful months together in Colombia when we got married....?...we are waiting for appeal date ...i have a solicitor , and have spoke to my local councilor who is an immigration expert , he will be asking any necessary questions on our behalf ....please can anyone help us advise us ...we are so grateful for any advise you could give us ....thank you
I remembered in a case law in which court ordered that incapacity benefits and disability allowance should be included as income.

In my view eco has clearly error in decision so I would advise consult a good solicitors for appeal.

I remembered on user on some others forum I think (ukresident.com with use id Ayesha) she has a case like you and she won in court.

You can search her case on ukresident.com if you like.

Ali

Locked