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Tier1 Dependant Visa application

Post by jagankumar » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:17 pm

Hi all,
I've got my Tier1(General) visa valid from Jan 2009 till Jan 2012.
And I got married in October 2009.
Due to personal reasons still am in India, planning to travel to UK in Nov 2010. Now I wish to apply dependant visa for my wife. My question is
1) What are all the documents do I need to submit for dependant visa alone?
2) Do I need to submit all the documents which I provided for my stamping for dependant.
3) Will fees be same as Rs.51000 for dependant visa alone?
4) What is minimum fund do I need to maintain for dependant?

Alternatively
Can I go there and if I apply for dependant will process change for document submission?
If I start to UK myself alone and maintain the funds in UK bank, how much do i need to maintain for dependant?

Please advice us.

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Post by aruni4470 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:39 pm

Please go through the dependant policy guidance and most of your queries will be answered. If not, you can get back. Also search the forum and you will find many similar cases.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... olicy1.pdf

For visa fee, it is same for the main applicant or dependant. Rs.51750/-
http://www.vfs-uk-in.com/visafees.aspx

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Post by jagankumar » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:20 pm

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Need clarification on marriage certificate proof for dependant.

Ours is Inter religion marriage.
We got married in both(Hindu and Christian) customs on same day 21st Oct 2009.
We have printed invitations which mentioned the above said date as 21st Oct 2009.
But we got married in registrar office under special marriage act on 19th oct 2009 just 2 days before custom wedding.

Now we got conflict on Marriage Certificate and marriage Invitation card.

Shall we show only Marriage certificate with dated 19th Oct 2009? In this case shall we show the wedding fotos which actually snapped on 21st with customs

Or hide the marriage certificate and show only the wedding invitation and fotos which happened on 21st oct 2009.
Please advice us. How to provide proof for it.

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Post by aruni4470 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:32 pm

Read the below thread which might be of help..
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... d+marriage

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Post by destiniation_london » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:06 pm

jagankumar wrote:Thanks for your prompt reply.

Need clarification on marriage certificate proof for dependant.

Ours is Inter religion marriage.
We got married in both(Hindu and Christian) customs on same day 21st Oct 2009.
We have printed invitations which mentioned the above said date as 21st Oct 2009.
But we got married in registrar office under special marriage act on 19th oct 2009 just 2 days before custom wedding.

Now we got conflict on Marriage Certificate and marriage Invitation card.

Shall we show only Marriage certificate with dated 19th Oct 2009? In this case shall we show the wedding fotos which actually snapped on 21st with customs

Or hide the marriage certificate and show only the wedding invitation and fotos which happened on 21st oct 2009.
Please advice us. How to provide proof for it.
I'd advise you to be honest with your application and explain everything in covering letter.

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Post by hsmp1412 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:25 am

jagankumar wrote:
Or hide the marriage certificate and show only the wedding invitation and fotos which happened on 21st oct 2009.
If you want to avoid submitting some docs as they contradict each other, make sure you dont discount any legal docs. The marriage certificate is a legal doc that has far more value than an invitation card and some photos.

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Post by jagankumar » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:35 am

Thanks for your replies.

My another doubt is regarding the maintenance funds.

For applying dependant visa for my wife.
After recieving Tier1 one, still am in India, planning to travel only in Nov 2010.
For fund maintenance, how much minimum do I need to maintain?
Only (GBP 1600) or (GBP 1600 + GBP 800)
Is that mandatory the fund maintenance should be either in my account or my wife account? What about the case if the account is maintained in my Mother-Inlaw's account?

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Post by aruni4470 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:43 am

jagankumar wrote:Thanks for your replies.

My another doubt is regarding the maintenance funds.

For applying dependant visa for my wife.
After recieving Tier1 one, still am in India, planning to travel only in Nov 2010.
For fund maintenance, how much minimum do I need to maintain?
Only (GBP 1600) or (GBP 1600 + GBP 800)
Is that mandatory the fund maintenance should be either in my account or my wife account? What about the case if the account is maintained in my Mother-Inlaw's account?
There are people who think that you need to maintain funds for both the main applicant and dependant, even if you apply only for dependant (like me) and there are people who have got dependant visa only by showing dependant maintenance (search the forum and you will find them). One of them http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... aintenance

As far as the policy guidance is concerned it says
"43. If the same Tier 1 Migrant and his family had been present in the UK for two years, they would require evidence that they held £2399 (£533 x 3 = £1599 + £800) in available funds.
44. If a family member applies separately from the Tier 1 Migrant, there must still be enough funds to support each member of the family. Therefore in the example above, if the family has a third child, the main applicant has been in the United Kingdom for two years and the family applies for leave to remain for the third child separately, they must provide evidence that they have an additional £533 in available funds."

The funds to prove dependant maintenance can be in the name of main applicant or the dependant applicant or in a joint account where one of them is named. Accounts on anybody else's name cannot be used.

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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:09 pm

1st Sep 2010, I came UK with new employment,
We have deposited around Rs.2 Lakhs into my wife's account on 1st Sept 2010.
Now we've planned to apply for dependant visa for my wife exactly after 90 days frm 1st sept 2010. i.e by beginning of Dec 2010.

Question1
For the fund maintenance, will (£1600 wife + £800 myself) would be sufficient? or still do we need to maintain (£1600 wife + £2800 myself)
(by the time of application, i would be living in uk for just 3+ months)

Question2
My mother inlaw has FD's for 3Lakhs in her account and maintained for more than a year.
Will it be fine If my wife joint her name into the Mother In Laws' FD by today . and get a statement by next week.
Statement contains My wife's name and my Mother In law's name and it shows funds for past 1 year with 3 Lakhs. Would this be acceptable?

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Post by destiniation_london » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:44 pm

jagankumar wrote:1st Sep 2010, I came UK with new employment,
We have deposited around Rs.2 Lakhs into my wife's account on 1st Sept 2010.
Now we've planned to apply for dependant visa for my wife exactly after 90 days frm 1st sept 2010. i.e by beginning of Dec 2010.

Question1
For the fund maintenance, will (£1600 wife + £800 myself) would be sufficient? or still do we need to maintain (£1600 wife + £2800 myself)
(by the time of application, i would be living in uk for just 3+ months)

Question2
My mother inlaw has FD's for 3Lakhs in her account and maintained for more than a year.
Will it be fine If my wife joint her name into the Mother In Laws' FD by today . and get a statement by next week.
Statement contains My wife's name and my Mother In law's name and it shows funds for past 1 year with 3 Lakhs. Would this be acceptable?
2800+1600

getting your wife name in the FD just at the last minute might seem suspicious to UK embassy should they decide to verify.

Moreover, I don't think Fixed deposits are accepted as valid evidence of maintenance fund.

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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:08 pm

Why do I still need to show funds for me, I've got visa and already in UK employment? I hope we need to show £800 for me and £1600 for spouse. Correct me if am wrong.. also in this forum i've seen ppl who got success by showing funds only for spouse. Bit confused..........

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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:47 pm

As per policy guidance
It says for eg, which is less than 12 months in UK (3 months or 6 months or 9 months)
42. For example, the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the UK for 6 months and is making an application 42. at the same time as his/her spouse and two children. He/she must show that he/she has £1600 for his spouse and a further £1600 for each child, in addition to £800 required for his/her own support. In total the family will require evidence that they hold £5600 in available funds (£1600 x 3 = £4800 + £800).

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Post by destiniation_london » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:59 pm

jagankumar wrote:As per policy guidance
It says for eg, which is less than 12 months in UK (3 months or 6 months or 9 months)
42. For example, the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the UK for 6 months and is making an application 42. at the same time as his/her spouse and two children. He/she must show that he/she has £1600 for his spouse and a further £1600 for each child, in addition to £800 required for his/her own support. In total the family will require evidence that they hold £5600 in available funds (£1600 x 3 = £4800 + £800).
As already advised by aruni, this is your risk to take. I know people have gotten away without showing funds for themselves but it all depends on case worker. If I were you, I wouldn't risk that HUGE application fee.

PS . you'd have to show 2800 and not 800 as you been in uk for less than 12 months.

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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:03 pm

PS . you'd have to show 2800 and not 800 as you been in uk for less than 12 months.

But in the Policy guidance 42. it has been mentioned example with considering 6 months and asks about £800 for self.

42. For example, the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the UK for 6 months and is making an application at the same time as his/her spouse and two children. He/she must show that he/she has £1600 for his spouse and a further £1600 for each child, in addition to £800 required for his/her own support. In total the family will require evidence that they hold £5600 in available funds (£1600 x 3 = £4800 + £800).

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Re: Tier1 Dependant Visa application

Post by geriatrix » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:06 pm

jagankumar wrote:Due to personal reasons still am in India, planning to travel to UK in Nov 2010. .
Have you been living in the UK since your received your Tier 1 visa? If not, how do you think does para 42 apply to you to enable you to show 800 for yourself?

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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:08 pm

yes, I came to UK last week and I have started my work here as Programmer, and will be filing dependant visa for my wife in Dec 2010 from Chennai. Now still can I show £800 for myself?

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:15 pm

Please remember that the responses are based on the information you share. Evidently you missed sharing this important information ... since you started this topic.

Coming to the point,
Maintenance funds - 800 for self and 1600 for each dependent. It is up to you if you would want to show 1600 and risk a refusal or show 2400 and eliminate that risk.

Marriage - Not difficult to explain in a cover letter that your marriage was solemnized in the registrar office on the 19th Oct and then the religious ceremonies were conducted on 21st Oct. Submit certificate and related evidences (photos, card etc.).


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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:18 pm

Actually, I've mentioned in my earlier post abt my arrival date in UK.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 am Post subject:
1st Sep 2010, I came UK with new employment,
We have deposited around Rs.2 Lakhs into my wife's account on 1st Sept 2010.


Anyways thanks for your reply... we have started maintaining £2400(£1600 + £800) ... but am worried abt whether £800 for self or £2800 for self.

Now got clarified that we need to show £2400.

Thanks once again

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:20 pm

jagankumar wrote:Actually, I've mentioned in my earlier post abt my arrival date in UK.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 am Post subject:
1st Sep 2010, I came UK with new employment,
We have deposited around Rs.2 Lakhs into my wife's account on 1st Sept 2010.
Oops! Missed that! My apologies!


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Post by geriatrix » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:33 pm

Also, if you do not submit the marriage certificate the application may be refused. That is the only document (of marriage) that has a legal standing as per UK law, therefore mandatory. Photographs and invitation cards are supplementary evidence ... to show that the wedding did take place.


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Post by jagankumar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:36 pm

We've planned to provide marriage certificate and wedding fotos.
Since we have date conflict in registrar marriage and custom marriage, we gonna avoid wedding invitations. Will this be alright?
or
Shall we goahead explain everything in covering letter and provide all the evidences like, marriage certificate, wedding card, fotos ....?

Please advice us

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:46 pm

If you wish to include the photos / card etc. then explain the circumstances in a cover letter - so that there is no confusion.

Marriage certificate mandatory.


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Post by destiniation_london » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:27 pm

jagankumar wrote:yes, I came to UK last week and I have started my work here as Programmer, and will be filing dependant visa for my wife in Dec 2010 from Chennai. Now still can I show £800 for myself?
Sorry, am I missing something here -

You saying you came to UK last week (start of September) and you intend to apply for dependant application in December, how do you complete 6 months in UK by December to show 800£.

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Post by veerug » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:39 pm

What should be the Maintains funds for the person who is living more than 12 months and less than 24 months. As this was not clearly explained in policy guidelines.

I come to UK on Feb 2009, and my visa is valid till September 2011.
Now i wanted to bring my wife to UK in the month of Nov 2010. Please explain me what should be the maintains funds for me??

£1600 + £800??? OR £533 + £800????

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Post by geriatrix » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:52 pm

veerug wrote:What should be the Maintains funds for the person who is living more than 12 months and less than 24 months. As this was not clearly explained in policy guidelines.

I come to UK on Feb 2009, and my visa is valid till September 2011.
Now i wanted to bring my wife to UK in the month of Nov 2010. Please explain me what should be the maintains funds for me??

£1600 + £800??? OR £533 + £800????
Main migrant outside the UK (yet to enter UK to live & work there) = 2800 for self + 1600 for each dependent.
Main migrant in the UK for less than 12 months = 800 for self + 1600 for each dependent.
Main migrant in the UK since more than 12 months = 800 for self + 533 of each dependent.


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