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If you have paid within 21 days. Then It's not a criminal conviction and NO NEED TO DECLARE ANYWHERE WHETHER on VISA OR JOB APPLICATION. It's simply a fixed penalty fine. Only convictions in court of law are required to be declared.Biggy01 wrote:Well, I could not really say if you will be affected and also depends on case worker. Have you ever applied for a CRB after the incident? I will advice you to apply for one and see what it contains. If your CRB is clean, then you have good chances and try to consult citizen ad B or solicitors for proffessional advice. best of luck...............
silverline wrote:If you have paid within 21 days. Then It's not a criminal conviction and NO NEED TO DECLARE ANYWHERE WHETHER on VISA OR JOB APPLICATION. It's simply a fixed penalty fine. Only convictions in court of law are required to be declared.Biggy01 wrote:Well, I could not really say if you will be affected and also depends on case worker. Have you ever applied for a CRB after the incident? I will advice you to apply for one and see what it contains. If your CRB is clean, then you have good chances and try to consult citizen ad B or solicitors for proffessional advice. best of luck...............
It's best to have a CRB check for personal satisfaction & keep record straight.
Cheer up!! If police would have taken you to court, you could have been in trouble.
As long as you were not convicted and you don't have a criminal offence, it should not be a problem, but not decalring it to me may seem that you are hiding something and the case worker might interpret it otherwise.... but make sure you explain it was a mistake and the police only gave yopu a fine or a caution...urfrndnc wrote:If i decare it and even though it is not a conviction.....will this declaration create issues with my visa extension ??
farhan_tai wrote:I hope following will satisfy your query
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... character/
My friend the link explain the good character requirements for applying British Citizenship !!! not T1 extensionfarhan_tai wrote:I hope following will satisfy your query
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... character/
litu1 wrote:My friend the link explain the good character requirements for applying British Citizenship !!!farhan_tai wrote:I hope following will satisfy your query
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... character/
thats what i was saying to Mr. farhan_tai.. he is misleadingurfrndnc wrote:litu1 wrote:My friend the link explain the good character requirements for applying British Citizenship !!!farhan_tai wrote:I hope following will satisfy your query
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... character/
But my application is not for citizenship.....this is for tier1 general extension
salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.
If I were you, I would never disclose it. It is NOT a criminal conviction. End of the story. (Look at it like this, NO ONE declares the fixed penalty if you parked in stupid private parking spaces, do you ... or anything similar, coz thats a FINE, no court conviction)urfrndnc wrote:salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.
Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.
This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?
But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?
I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?
Please advice guys
Why did you have to pay the fixed penalty notice in a court? or is that where they are paid..... I don't think it will affect your application but not declaring will affect you more....remember its shoplifting, you were arrested and fined. Its is called a caution or warning and I know stuff like these show up in CRB. I hope I am not scaring you but please seek legal advice if you are still worried.urfrndnc wrote:salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.
Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.
This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?
But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?
I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?
Please advice guys
lesbere wrote:Why did you have to pay the fixed penalty notice in a court? or is that where they are paid..... I don't think it will affect your application but not declaring will affect you more....remember its shoplifting, you were arrested and fined. Its is called a caution or warning and I know stuff like these show up in CRB. I hope I am not scaring you but please seek legal advice if you are still worried.urfrndnc wrote:salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.
Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.
This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?
But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?
I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?
Please advice guys
Spoken like a true veteran. I would agree.NeoZ wrote:If I were you, I would never disclose it. It is NOT a criminal conviction. End of the story. (Look at it like this, NO ONE declares the fixed penalty if you parked in stupid private parking spaces, do you ... or anything similar, coz thats a FINE, no court conviction)urfrndnc wrote:salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.
Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.
This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?
But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?
I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?
Please advice guys
Get over it. Do not mention it anywhere. (NOT even cover letters!)