My French Schengen Visa Rejected

[ausafaho]

Hi Guys!

I applied for french schengen visa back in January 2011, with all required documentation. But when I received m passport back, it was rejected without mentioning any reason. Basically, there was no rejection stamp but just one code like this: ('280640'.....Consulate of France). My travel agent told me that it is refusal. So I contacted back embassy but I was not allowed to meet the visa consulor there. The guy on the counter just told me that The System Has Rejected You. Then I asked why....he said I dont know.

My question is what does it mean of the last statement.....The System Has Rejected You. Means any alert was issued against me in the system? Or is there any Link between system and Visa application/supporting ducoments?

Please inform me!

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

See the Schengen Visa Code at http://eumovement.wordpress.com/other-schengen/

2. A decision on refusal and the reasons on which it is based
shall be notified to the applicant by means of the standard form
set out in Annex VI.

3. Applicants who have been refused a visa shall have the
right to appeal. Appeals shall be conducted against the Member
State that has taken the final decision on the application and in
accordance with the national law of that Member State. Member
States shall provide applicants with information regarding the
procedure to be followed in the event of an appeal, as specified
in Annex VI.

They should have given you a form which explains the reason for the refusal. And you do have a right of appeal.

[acme4242]

As mentioned in the earlier answer, by law, such refusal must be given in writing with a justifiable reason and appeal process details.
Article 32 of the Schengen Visa Code is the law covering refusals.
And here is the Standard form they must fill in. http://www2.mfa.gr/softlib/Annex_25%20% ... efusal.pdf


Schengen Visa Code (Law)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 058:EN:PDF

Article 32
Refusal of a visa
1. Without prejudice to Article 25(1), a visa shall be refused:
(a) if the applicant:
(i) presents a travel document which is false, counterfeit
or forged;
(ii) does not provide justification for the purpose and
conditions of the intended stay;
(iii) does not provide proof of sufficient means of
subsistence, both for the duration of the intended
stay and for the return to his country of origin or
residence, or for the transit to a third country into
which he is certain to be admitted, or is not in a
position to acquire such means lawfully;
(iv) has already stayed for three months during the current
six-month period on the territory of the Member States
on the basis of a uniform visa or a visa with limited
territorial validity;
(v) is a person for whom an alert has been issued in the
SIS for the purpose of refusing entry;
(vi) is considered to be a threat to public policy, internal
security or public health as defined in Article 2(19) of
the Schengen Borders Code or to the international
relations of any of the Member States, in particular
where an alert has been issued in Member States’
national databases for the purpose of refusing entry
on the same grounds; or
(vii) does not provide proof of holding adequate and valid
travel medical insurance, where applicable;
or
(b) if there are reasonable doubts as to the authenticity of the
supporting documents submitted by the applicant or the
veracity of their contents, the reliability of the statements
made by the applicant or his intention to leave the territory
of the Member States before the expiry of the visa applied
for.
2. A decision on refusal and the reasons on which it is based
shall be notified to the applicant by means of the standard form
set out in Annex VI.
3. Applicants who have been refused a visa shall have the
right to appeal. Appeals shall be conducted against the Member
State that has taken the final decision on the application and in
accordance with the national law of that Member State. Member
States shall provide applicants with information regarding the
procedure to be followed in the event of an appeal, as specified
in Annex VI.
4. In the cases referred to in Article 8(2), the consulate of the
representing Member State shall inform the applicant of the
decision taken by the represented Member State.
5. Information on a refused visa shall be entered into the VIS
in accordance with Article 12 of the VIS Regulation.

[chelmikbar]

Is it possible that the information you provided is old? They just notified me that my long stay student visa has been denied last friday, and they handed me a paper stating that according to French law, the reasons for denial do not need to be communicated to me.

I also have a question about this form. On reason number four, where it says "has already stayed for three months during the current
six-month period on the territory of the Member States
on the basis of a uniform visa or a visa with limited
territorial validity"... what does "uniform visa or a visa with limited territorial validity" mean exactly? Does this mean if you've been in France as a tourist for three months, then you return to the States (for example) just in time to go to your visa appointment, your visa can be denied simply because you were there as a tourist?

Thanks for your help!

As mentioned in the earlier answer, by law, such refusal must be given in writing with a justifiable reason and appeal process details.
Article 32 of the Schengen Visa Code is the law covering refusals.
And here is the Standard form they must fill in. http://www2.mfa.gr/softlib/Annex_25%20% ... efusal.pdf


Schengen Visa Code (Law)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 058:EN:PDF

Article 32
Refusal of a visa
1. Without prejudice to Article 25(1), a visa shall be refused:
(a) if the applicant:
(i) presents a travel document which is false, counterfeit
or forged;
(ii) does not provide justification for the purpose and
conditions of the intended stay;
(iii) does not provide proof of sufficient means of
subsistence, both for the duration of the intended
stay and for the return to his country of origin or
residence, or for the transit to a third country into
which he is certain to be admitted, or is not in a
position to acquire such means lawfully;
(iv) has already stayed for three months during the current
six-month period on the territory of the Member States
on the basis of a uniform visa or a visa with limited
territorial validity;
(v) is a person for whom an alert has been issued in the
SIS for the purpose of refusing entry;
(vi) is considered to be a threat to public policy, internal
security or public health as defined in Article 2(19) of
the Schengen Borders Code or to the international
relations of any of the Member States, in particular
where an alert has been issued in Member States’
national databases for the purpose of refusing entry
on the same grounds; or
(vii) does not provide proof of holding adequate and valid
travel medical insurance, where applicable;
or
(b) if there are reasonable doubts as to the authenticity of the
supporting documents submitted by the applicant or the
veracity of their contents, the reliability of the statements
made by the applicant or his intention to leave the territory
of the Member States before the expiry of the visa applied
for.
2. A decision on refusal and the reasons on which it is based
shall be notified to the applicant by means of the standard form
set out in Annex VI.
3. Applicants who have been refused a visa shall have the
right to appeal. Appeals shall be conducted against the Member
State that has taken the final decision on the application and in
accordance with the national law of that Member State. Member
States shall provide applicants with information regarding the
procedure to be followed in the event of an appeal, as specified
in Annex VI.
4. In the cases referred to in Article 8(2), the consulate of the
representing Member State shall inform the applicant of the
decision taken by the represented Member State.
5. Information on a refused visa shall be entered into the VIS
in accordance with Article 12 of the VIS Regulation.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

Since you are applying for a national law long stay visa, the rules may be different than the schengen visa. Do you have any idea why you might have been refused?

[acme4242]

Is it possible that the information you provided is old? They just notified me that my long stay student visa has been denied last friday, and they handed me a paper stating that according to French law, the reasons for denial do not need to be communicated to me.


Thanks for your help!

the information provided above relates to Schengen visit visas, of type-C
this is what is uniform across all Schengen

Long stay visas type-D, come purely under national law, and varies
between each country.

The Schengen visa (type C) is valid for a stay of up to 90 days within a six
months period. It is issued for tourist or business visitors

The student visa (type D) is a long-stay national visa valid for a country,
however it also authorizes a 90 day stay in the other Schengen countries
for 90 days per semester

I don't know French National law, but I can imagine it might be
on the arrogant side, meaning they won't justify their decision.

what does "uniform visa or a visa with limited territorial validity" mean exactly? Does this mean if you've been in France as a tourist for three months, then you return to the States (for example) just in time to go to your visa appointment, your visa can be denied simply because you were there as a tourist?

uniform visa or a visa with limited territorial validity = visit visa
sometimes, the visit visa can be restricted to some schengen countries
usually, its a common uniform visa, that allows travel across all Schengen.

After a tourist visit, its ok to apply student visa, straight away,
its different thing.

Its a bit unfair if they won't give you a refusal reason.

[ausafaho]

Chapter Closed! Finally, received French Schengen Visa.

[toofan]

congratulations