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Many thanks for your reply. I gave them proof of us living together for the last five years, my spouse is even more distressed than I am and I have her 100% support. We have four boys together and 3 of them have Irish citizenship. She gave birth to our last boy in 2010 and was back in school the next day, bless her.IQU wrote:just make sure you have proof of last 5 years living together and all the college letter with life insurance.they cant refuse your application if your experience your eu treaty right.once your wife/husband is stand with you.you can even knock the court door.its breaches the eu regulations.they cant treat irish spouse/eu spouse separted rules.if irish spouse even in socail,college whatever you can easily renew your visa.but your wife is even in college they cant have right to refuse your visa.do you have any kid together?what is the nationallity of your kid? just make sure contact mrci,irish immigrant rights and solvit.good luck
If they give you a reason, but it appears to me that, you did not state the reason whereby a standi could be created on that virtue. saved in exceptional circumstances, you can appeal it to the high court, however, this is a case of direct effect of non-privileged nature and there's a ground for favorable judicial review answer, but the basis of refusal need to be stated. then a further basis for such standi can then be advised.EUspouse82 wrote:I would like to seek the help of the good people on this forum. I arrived Ireland with my spouse who is British June 2006 and in August recieved a 5 year EU residence permit. I made an application for permanent residence in April of this year and I got a refusal letter this morning.
My situation is as follows,My wife worked for about 6 months but lost her job in 2007, I worked for 9 months but my company moved from Ireland. Since then we registered with FAS and decided to go to college. My wife is currently in the third year of a state sponsored course. I completed a masters degree and I am currently a Phd student in my college. INIS said the refusal is based
Angelcountry, you have been banned so many times from this forum. Why don't you realise at this stage that you are not wanted here and just give up? Your advice for the most part is incomprehensible, wrong and useless.Bell2 wrote:If they give you a reason, but it appears to me that, you did not state the reason whereby a standi could be created on that virtue. saved in exceptional circumstances, you can appeal it to the high court, however, this is a case of direct effect of non-privileged nature and there's a ground for favorable judicial review answer, but the basis of refusal need to be stated. then a further basis for such standi can then be advised.EUspouse82 wrote:I would like to seek the help of the good people on this forum. I arrived Ireland with my spouse who is British June 2006 and in August recieved a 5 year EU residence permit. I made an application for permanent residence in April of this year and I got a refusal letter this morning.
My situation is as follows,My wife worked for about 6 months but lost her job in 2007, I worked for 9 months but my company moved from Ireland. Since then we registered with FAS and decided to go to college. My wife is currently in the third year of a state sponsored course. I completed a masters degree and I am currently a Phd student in my college. INIS said the refusal is based
Dont you see the way you picked on me out of everybody, do you know the law of what you believed i don't know, just because is coherent, you get intimidated by knowledge, which is power.Monifé wrote:Angelcountry, you have been banned so many times from this forum. Why don't you realise at this stage that you are not wanted here and just give up? Your advice for the most part is incomprehensible, wrong and useless.Bell2 wrote:If they give you a reason, but it appears to me that, you did not state the reason whereby a standi could be created on that virtue. saved in exceptional circumstances, you can appeal it to the high court, however, this is a case of direct effect of non-privileged nature and there's a ground for favorable judicial review answer, but the basis of refusal need to be stated. then a further basis for such standi can then be advised.EUspouse82 wrote:I would like to seek the help of the good people on this forum. I arrived Ireland with my spouse who is British June 2006 and in August recieved a 5 year EU residence permit. I made an application for permanent residence in April of this year and I got a refusal letter this morning.
My situation is as follows,My wife worked for about 6 months but lost her job in 2007, I worked for 9 months but my company moved from Ireland. Since then we registered with FAS and decided to go to college. My wife is currently in the third year of a state sponsored course. I completed a masters degree and I am currently a Phd student in my college. INIS said the refusal is based
Thanks for your post. I can confirm that I have no criminal convictions or even visited the police station apart from renewing my residence permit. In terms of the refusal, the letter itself was awash with inconsistencies, typographical errors and was quite unprofessional. The reasons for refusal were that :knapps wrote:i contacted EU commission and got a reply previously that your LTR can only be refused if you are a threat to the country you are living in and have criminal convictions. Also, refusal has to be thorough and explanatory.
Not sure if on any other basis it can be refused unless it is a marriage of convenience etc
Immigration status is not about criminal conviction, but the type of crime, and indeed, how they can Usurp deportation with the conviction in questions and if they couldn't lucky you. Mostly based on serious crime.EUspouse82 wrote:Thanks for your post. I can confirm that I have no criminal convictions or even visited the police station apart from renewing my residence permit. In terms of the refusal, the letter itself was awash with inconsistencies, typographical errors and was quite unprofessional. The reasons for refusal were that :knapps wrote:i contacted EU commission and got a reply previously that your LTR can only be refused if you are a threat to the country you are living in and have criminal convictions. Also, refusal has to be thorough and explanatory.
Not sure if on any other basis it can be refused unless it is a marriage of convenience etc
. Between 2006-2009, there was very limited exercise of treaty rights
. I submitted a letter from FAS confirming my spouse had registered with them but they said the letter did not state when she first registered
One thing that I am confused about is that nothing was mentioned about my own employment. I worked in 2006 and 2007 before I lost my job and provided evidence but this was not taken into consideration at all. I was of the opinion that my employment would also be considered as part of her exercising her treaty rights.
@IQU, I have considered applying via the Zambrano route as I do not have any immigration status at the moment but my problem is I dont know if you can make two separate applications concurrently as I intend to still appeal the EU treaty rights.
I will appreciate the comments so far and I will be glad if I can get your further inputs..Thanks
Bell2 wrote:Immigration status is not about criminal conviction, but the type of crime, and indeed, how they can Usurp deportation with the conviction in questions and if they couldn't lucky you. Mostly based on serious crime.EUspouse82 wrote:Thanks for your post. I can confirm that I have no criminal convictions or even visited the police station apart from renewing my residence permit. In terms of the refusal, the letter itself was awash with inconsistencies, typographical errors and was quite unprofessional. The reasons for refusal were that :knapps wrote:i contacted EU commission and got a reply previously that your LTR can only be refused if you are a threat to the country you are living in and have criminal convictions. Also, refusal has to be thorough and explanatory.
Not sure if on any other basis it can be refused unless it is a marriage of convenience etc
. Between 2006-2009, there was very limited exercise of treaty rights
. I submitted a letter from FAS confirming my spouse had registered with them but they said the letter did not state when she first registered
One thing that I am confused about is that nothing was mentioned about my own employment. I worked in 2006 and 2007 before I lost my job and provided evidence but this was not taken into consideration at all. I was of the opinion that my employment would also be considered as part of her exercising her treaty rights.
@IQU, I have considered applying via the Zambrano route as I do not have any immigration status at the moment but my problem is I dont know if you can make two separate applications concurrently as I intend to still appeal the EU treaty rights.
I will appreciate the comments so far and I will be glad if I can get your further inputs..Thanks
However, Zambrano case is based on a family who has been residing in Belgium and lost their job and decided to claim unemployment benefit which comes under article 8 re;sala and under article 20 (2) per the right to provide for their family who are European citizen.
What i don't understand is that, where you informed in that letter that, you're given certain days to appeal their decision or just pure refusal otherwise judicial review will be the best option at present.
EUspouse82 wrote:Bell2 wrote:Immigration status is not about criminal conviction, but the type of crime, and indeed, how they can Usurp deportation with the conviction in questions and if they couldn't lucky you. Mostly based on serious crime.EUspouse82 wrote:Thanks for your post. I can confirm that I have no criminal convictions or even visited the police station apart from renewing my residence permit. In terms of the refusal, the letter itself was awash with inconsistencies, typographical errors and was quite unprofessional. The reasons for refusal were that :knapps wrote:i contacted EU commission and got a reply previously that your LTR can only be refused if you are a threat to the country you are living in and have criminal convictions. Also, refusal has to be thorough and explanatory.
Not sure if on any other basis it can be refused unless it is a marriage of convenience etc
. Between 2006-2009, there was very limited exercise of treaty rights
. I submitted a letter from FAS confirming my spouse had registered with them but they said the letter did not state when she first registered
One thing that I am confused about is that nothing was mentioned about my own employment. I worked in 2006 and 2007 before I lost my job and provided evidence but this was not taken into consideration at all. I was of the opinion that my employment would also be considered as part of her exercising her treaty rights.
@IQU, I have considered applying via the Zambrano route as I do not have any immigration status at the moment but my problem is I dont know if you can make two separate applications concurrently as I intend to still appeal the EU treaty rights.
I will appreciate the comments so far and I will be glad if I can get your further inputs..Thanks
However, Zambrano case is based on a family who has been residing in Belgium and lost their job and decided to claim unemployment benefit which comes under article 8 re;sala and under article 20 (2) per the right to provide for their family who are European citizen.
What i don't understand is that, where you informed in that letter that, you're given certain days to appeal their decision or just pure refusal otherwise judicial review will be the best option at present.
I am not intimidated by your knowledge. I have a huge knowledge of immigration law aswell so that doesn't bother me. What annoys me, is it seems you quote from law books with no comprehension and even the most knowledgable law person would not understand you.Bell2 wrote:Dont you see the way you picked on me out of everybody, do you know the law of what you believed i don't know, just because is coherent, you get intimidated by knowledge, which is power.Monifé wrote:Angelcountry, you have been banned so many times from this forum. Why don't you realise at this stage that you are not wanted here and just give up? Your advice for the most part is incomprehensible, wrong and useless.Bell2 wrote:If they give you a reason, but it appears to me that, you did not state the reason whereby a standi could be created on that virtue. saved in exceptional circumstances, you can appeal it to the high court, however, this is a case of direct effect of non-privileged nature and there's a ground for favorable judicial review answer, but the basis of refusal need to be stated. then a further basis for such standi can then be advised.EUspouse82 wrote:I would like to seek the help of the good people on this forum. I arrived Ireland with my spouse who is British June 2006 and in August recieved a 5 year EU residence permit. I made an application for permanent residence in April of this year and I got a refusal letter this morning.
My situation is as follows,My wife worked for about 6 months but lost her job in 2007, I worked for 9 months but my company moved from Ireland. Since then we registered with FAS and decided to go to college. My wife is currently in the third year of a state sponsored course. I completed a masters degree and I am currently a Phd student in my college. INIS said the refusal is based
You're sick, not wanted in a commentary website ? are you crazy ?
In a country, relationship, company, education sector, you name it, you're dearly beloved and i am sure you are an Asian person that like to dominate aren't you ? you're hurt of the truth, take it out again i will be back until you allow other people to comment or what does not concern you or has a direct effect on you and if you need to challenge me in court mail me and get my full details then we meet in court for your persistent breaches of freedom of speech in a website comment. ******.
you get status in august 2006.you apply for pr in april 11? by my calculation that is less than 5 years (you should have made it in august 11!) if correct, your application is premature.did she apply for fas straight after lost job?(thus jobseeker thus retain status for a time)when did college start?if no gaps- BREACH OF EUEUspouse82 wrote:I would like to seek the help of the good people on this forum. I arrived Ireland with my spouse who is British June 2006 and in August recieved a 5 year EU residence permit. I made an application for permanent residence in April of this year and I got a refusal letter this morning.
My situation is as follows,My wife worked for about 6 months but lost her job in 2007, I worked for 9 months but my company moved from Ireland. Since then we registered with FAS and decided to go to college. My wife is currently in the third year of a state sponsored course. I completed a masters degree and I am currently a Phd student in my college. INIS said the refusal is based
it can also be refused if you don't meet the requirements (any of them and bear in mind the wide definitions) under art 7 for full 5 years or meet exeptions in arts 7& 17.the advice given to you was given on the assumption that one meets the criteria.not enough to simply reside.that does not mean renewal of status less pr can be refused,if one now complies with art 7(eg,work for 4 months,loose job,do nothing else,return to work 2 years later,loose job after 5 months,do nothing,but now found work or study or self sufficient)knapps wrote:i contacted EU commission and got a reply previously that your LTR can only be refused if you are a threat to the country you are living in and have criminal convictions. Also, refusal has to be thorough and explanatory.
Not sure if on any other basis it can be refused unless it is a marriage of convenience etc
you can only make application after meeting five rule.looking at the partly disclosed facts,it might not be the case that its obvious,so we should not assume.read what the directive actually says and refrain from making up your own rules.nobody is asking you want you think,your being asked for what you know.kindly provide evidence to support your opinion,thank youIQU wrote:eu pr application is made after 4 and half year. because processing time is 6 months.i dont think they are breaches any law.they have all the document from last 5 years living together and also on socail welfare etc etc.they have kids together.inis should give them pr card easily.
What i don't like is that, people denying others of their says, and you don't have to take me off the site than write your own contributions, than singling me out because of the fact, so where do you get your own fact ?Monifé wrote:I am not intimidated by your knowledge. I have a huge knowledge of immigration law aswell so that doesn't bother me. What annoys me, is it seems you quote from law books with no comprehension and even the most knowledgable law person would not understand you.Bell2 wrote:Dont you see the way you picked on me out of everybody, do you know the law of what you believed i don't know, just because is coherent, you get intimidated by knowledge, which is power.Monifé wrote:Angelcountry, you have been banned so many times from this forum. Why don't you realise at this stage that you are not wanted here and just give up? Your advice for the most part is incomprehensible, wrong and useless.Bell2 wrote:
If they give you a reason, but it appears to me that, you did not state the reason whereby a standi could be created on that virtue. saved in exceptional circumstances, you can appeal it to the high court, however, this is a case of direct effect of non-privileged nature and there's a ground for favorable judicial review answer, but the basis of refusal need to be stated. then a further basis for such standi can then be advised.
You're sick, not wanted in a commentary website ? are you crazy ?
In a country, relationship, company, education sector, you name it, you're dearly beloved and i am sure you are an Asian person that like to dominate aren't you ? you're hurt of the truth, take it out again i will be back until you allow other people to comment or what does not concern you or has a direct effect on you and if you need to challenge me in court mail me and get my full details then we meet in court for your persistent breaches of freedom of speech in a website comment. ******.
I am certainly not dearly beloved and I am not asian either. The comment about court is retarded, if that was the case, I should have you for defamation.
Anyway, lets leave it at that and get back on topic. You will be banned again soon anyway.